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Collecting Civil War autographs: An interview with Brian Green

November 5, 2011 | Category: Autographs, Civil War, Interview

11th Rhode Island Infantry Zouave patriotic letter

What we nowadays most often call the American Civil War went by other names 150 years ago, depending on who you were and where you were from: In the North it was called the War of the Rebellion or the War for the Union; in the South, it was the War of the Rebellion, the War of Secession or the War of Northern Aggression, and the War Between the States after the fighting ended; among Southern slaves, it was the Freedom War.

These names reflect different perspectives on the causes of the war: the clash over slavery – complete abolition, restriction to the Southern states or expansion in the West; the right of states to secede from the Union; the economic domination of the agrarian South by the industrialized North … What’s not in dispute is that the Civil War was America’s costliest military conflict in terms of human devastation – some 620,000 soldiers killed, many more wounded or maimed, and God knows how many civilian deaths from combat, disease and starvation. The echoes of that bitter struggle, though a century and a half in the past, still resound in our national psyche and continue to affect us in ways large and small. Without doubt, it always will.

Small wonder, then, that many, many people are deeply interested in the Civil War. If you are from the South, where most of the fighting took place and historical monuments are everywhere – or if you have an ancestor who fought – then discussion of the war was probably a part of your upbringing. Civil War battlefields are visited by millions each year, and dedicated reenactors not only portray military events for crowds of spectators but try to duplicate the physical realities of the era in minute detail – for example, by wearing only authentic period clothing and accoutrements.

Then, of course, there are the collectors: of weapons and uniforms; flags, medals, musical instruments and equipment; coins, stamps, bonds and currency; newspapers, maps and letters; diaries and documents; photographs and autographs … Whatever physical artifact of the Civil War you can think of, someone collects it – passionately.

Brian & Maria Green, Inc., of Kernersville, N.C., is a premier dealer in Civil War autographs and paper memorabilia; I’m a customer of theirs myself, so I can heartily recommend them. Brian’s breadth of knowledge of the war never fails to impress me; what’s more, he’s highly regarded in his field, knows a lot of people and attends a lot of shows, so if he doesn’t have what you’re looking for now, he’s bound to find it sooner or later. (My advice: Send him your want list.)

I asked Brian about collecting Civil War autographs and other material. Here’s what he told me …

General William Tecumseh Sherman franked 1870s cover as commander in chief, U.S. Army. AmeriCollector: How many Civil War–related autographs do you have in stock? Do you include antebellum and Reconstruction autographs in this category?

Brian Green: Over 1,000, including both prewar (antebellum) and postwar (Reconstruction) personages, North and South, who were in the war. We also include the Indian Wars era, as many Civil War personages were participants.

AC: Do many collectors specialize in the Civil War?

Brian: It is the most collectible era in the United States, especially as it is now the 150th anniversary of the war and there will be five years of events. We have quite a few customer, with a large catalog following – we do four a year – plus many collectors who attend the various Civil War shows around the U.S.; most are east of the Mississippi (we exhibit at eight to ten a year). Our catalogs have our show schedules in them.

AC: What subjects do your customers collect (e.g., specific signers; material related to specific units, battles, military campaigns, states; etc.)?

Brian: They collect many ways, such as generals, government and civilian officials (from the president on down), states, specific units (including ones ancestors served in), battles, military campaigns, etc., in letter, cover (envelope) and document form. They also collect Confederate States of America (CSA) and U.S.A. currency, bonds and stamps, including postally used (on and off a cover). We have a mail exhibit featuring famous CSA generals that has been on display at philatelic shows throughout the U.S. and won many awards, including gold medals and one “champion of the most popular exhibits” competition in 2011.

AC: What are the rarer autographs that you have now and have handled in the past? Do you work with institutions as well?

Brian: We have had most of the rare autographs of the KIA (killed in action), MWIA (mortally wounded in action) and DOD (died of disease) generals of both sides; a signed President Lincoln document suspending the writ of habeas corpus in Maryland, which was General Winfield Scott’s personal copy; the terms of a POW exchange in Missouri between General Sterling Price (CSA) and General John C. Frémont (U.S.A.); CSA general Jubal Early’s written proclamation read on the steps of the courthouse of York, Penn., to its citizens as to why the Confederates were in Pennsylvania and that they would not harm the citizens, unlike the treatment of Confederate citizens by the Yankees; “Stonewall” Jackson’s battle report for Second Manassas (August 1862); etc.

We do work with institutions and have a number of them as clients.

1864 Wallpaper cover from Tarboro, N.C AC: What makes an autograph important?

Brian: Such things as who the personage was, what he or she did and where (e.g., major battles), whether KIA, MWIA, POW, etc. Also, how many are known to exist, especially when there are less than 10 recorded.

AC: Are ordinary soldiers’ letters much collected? What kind of content do collectors of these letters look for? What is the price range?

Brian: Yes, there are many people interested in soldiers’ letters, and many are affordable and within reach of the vast majority of collectors. Many sell for under $100. Content, especially battle descriptions, dictate the price, as well as whether a letter is from a famous unit, such as the Iron Brigade of Michigan and Wisconsin, the 69th New York, the Stonewall Brigade of Virginia and the 26th North Carolina. Collectors look for descriptions of locations, camp life, campaigns, battle action, etc. These letters can range from under $50 to thousands, depending on whether they contain accounts of major battles like Shiloh, Antietam, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville, Gettysburg, Chickamauga, Franklin, etc.

AC: I have seen a lot of illustrated covers (Civil War–era envelopes) on eBay. Are they much collected?

Brian: Illustrated or patriotic covers are very much collected. They depict leaders, flags, portraits (generals and civilians), slogans, cartoons, battle scenes, ships, etc., as well as expressions of patriotism, scorn, hatred, etc. Southern (CSA) covers are much scarcer due to the lack of manufacturing processes, paper, inks, climate, the ravages of war as well as insects and rodents.

Probably more than 100 Union patriotic (covers) exist for each CSA cover, and the ratio could well be higher. For many of the CSA patriotic, only one or two are known or recorded. There are two major catalogs devoted to these patriotics: for CSA covers, “The New Dietz Confederate States Catalog and Handbook” by Hubert C. SkinnerErin R. Gunter and Warren H. Sanders; and for USA (Union) covers, “The George Walcott Collection of Used Civil War Covers” by Robert Laurence.

AC: What other kinds of Civil War material do you sell?

Brian: We also sell CSA currency, both government and state. The states issued currency, as there was not enough government money to supply the demand, plus transportation problems as the Federals occupied Confederate territory.

In addition, we sell CSA stamps and postal history (stamps on postally used covers and envelopes). Covers include civilian, military and government. They are collected by type of stamp (14 major government issues, not including the temporary postmasters’ provisionals until the government stamps appeared in 1861), cities, states, military, homemade (including those made from wallpaper), etc. We also carry photographs (cartes de visite, or CDVs) and engravings of some of the war personages. They are often used by collectors for framing with autographs.

We also have “first day of issue” covers (first day covers, or FDCs) for stamps issued by the U.S. government pertaining to the war, beginning in 1937 (such as the Army-Navy series and the final reunion of the Grand Army of the Republic, or GAR) and continuing through 1951 (the United Confederate Veterans final reunion) and later. They usually range between $3.50 and $10.

We can be contacted by mail, phone and online (though our Web site). We advertise in all the Civil War magazines and papers. We offer an authentication service for our material as well as client material (there is a fee for this). Many dealers and auction houses use this service.

 

An autograph or other item from the Civil War era makes a great gift for a collector and can inspire a young person to learn more about American history.

Visit Brian & Maria Green at www.bmgcivilwar.com.

All images courtesy of Brian & Maria Green. All of the items pictured are available for sale at this writing.

Fair disclosure: Brian & Maria Green is an advertiser on AmeriCollector.com.

 

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‘Collector’s items’: Catalogs received

Schubertiade Music LLC

(Winter 2011 catalog; received by e-mail)

John and Yoko

I admit it: I’m tone-deaf, can’t carry a tune, couldn’t even master playing a kazoo, and don’t collect anything music-related, but I always look forward to getting catalogs from Schubertiade Music (www.SchubertiadeMusic.com) because, frankly, I LOVE music, in spite of my lack of aptitude, and Schubertiade Music always has an interesting mix of autographs, photos, books, prints and ephemera. The newest catalog, just received, is no exception.

There are handwritten book reports by an adolescent Leonard Bernstein ($3,600); a business card of Gustav Mahler’s inscribed by him (“Would you please return my songs, which I need for a performance abroad. With friendly greetings”; $3,000); a testy Richard Strauss letter in which he declares, “I am not a factory of musical notes that works with guaranteed delivery” ($1,000); and lots more. If classical music isn’t your thing, there’s a great unsigned photo of Josephine Baker in one of her risqué outfits (or out of it) for $500 and one of her in casual attire, inscribed, for $375; three original photos of John Lennon and Yoko Ono ranging from $500 to $4,000 (the latter by Annie Leibovitz); and, for guitar mavens, a re-issue left-handed Höfner semi-acoustic bass guitar like the one used by Paul McCartney when the Beatles appeared on “The Ed Sullivan Show” … and this one is actually autographed by Paul in black felt tip on the mother-of-pearl pick guard ($6,500, hard-shell carrying case included).

The multitalented Gabriel Boyers, owner of Allston (Cambridge), Mass.–based Schubertiade Music, is an accomplished violinist and concertmaster with a very impressive musical resume; he’s also a poet who has been published in The Paris Review and Midstream. He’s also a member of the Professional Autograph Dealers Association and the Music Library Association. If you’re a serious music collector and you aren’t on Boyers’ mailing list, you’re missing the beat.

All images courtesy of Schubertiade Music LLC, www.SchubertiadeMusic.com.

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Christophe Stickel Autographs

(Auction 180, closes Thurs., Feb. 24, at 9 p.m. PST; received by e-mail)

I’ve bid in several Christophe Stickel Autographs auctions and come away with some real prizes each time. Christophe runs a smaller operation than most auction houses, which and he usually has rare items mixed in with low-rent stuff (think of a Baron Manfred von Richthofen signed portrait alongside one of Larry the Cable Guy). Go figure. This month’s auction features an 8 x 10 black-and-white photo of the Japanese surrender aboard the U.S.S. Missouri at the end of World War II, signed by – get this! – Winston Churchill, Chester Nimitz, Douglas MacArthur and AdmiralBullHalsey (est. $5,500); a signed copy of Albert Einstein’sThe World as I see It” (est. $1,850); an inscribed copy of L. Frank Baum’sThe Master Key” (est. $5,000); and a 7 x 10 “Green Hornet” pin-up removed from a booklet and signed by Bruce Lee as Kato and Van Williams as the eponymous insect (est. $2,500) . . . along with a signed cast photo of “Boston Legal” (est. $150) and an autographed 8 x 10 of Ryan Seacrest (est. $45). Needless to say, there’s more: The fun is in the searching.

Christophe Stickel Autographs is based in Pacific Grove, Calif., and is a member of the Professional Autograph Dealers Association. Check out the offerings at www.StickelAutographs.com.

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‘Collector’s items’

October 3, 2010 | Category: Autographs, Collector's items

Bomsey Autographs update

Franklin Roosevelt (1882-1945) autograph Virginia-based autograph dealer Ed Bomsey (‘Collectors items,’ Aug. 11) of Edward N. Bomsey Autographs (www.bomsey-autographs.com) has announced a lot of new stock. What I like about Ed, in addition to the fact that he’s a likable guy who knows a lot, is that he prices his items very reasonably – this, at a time when a lot of other dealers seem to pull crazy prices out of the air. If you want to get an early jump on holiday shopping, check out Ed’s site, which is arranged alphabetically as well as by category.

Image courtesy of Edward M. Bomsey Autographs

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‘Collector’s items’

August 11, 2010 | Category: Autographs, Collector's items, Manuscripts

Nelson Algren's Chicago Autograph dealer Ed Bomsey of Edward N. Bomsey Autographs (www.bomsey-autographs.com) in Virginia has sent around an e-mail noting he’s added many new additions to the listings on his site. I made Ed’s acquaintance a couple of months ago: A former lawyer whose collecting interests I plan to feature on AmeriCollector.com’s “What the Experts Collect,” Ed is erudite and friendly; he was the president of the The Manuscript Society (www.manuscript.org) from 2008 and chairman its ethics committee; he’s a former director of the Professional Autograph Dealers Association (www.padaweb.org); and he’s a member of the Antiquarian Booksellers’ Association of America (www.abaa.org) and a life member of the Universal Autograph Collectors Club (www.uacc.info).

To me, Ed is an autograph seller of the old school: He has really nice autograph material, has very high professional standard, genuine loves working with collectors and – please note – takes pains to price his items reasonably: As he told me, “I believe that items I get at a reasonable cost can be marketed at a reasonable cost.” He also does appraisals.

Images courtesy of Edward M. Bomsey Autographs, Inc.,
www.bomsey-autographs.com

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I was interested to read about Rick Norsigian, 64, who paints public schools in Fresno, Calif.: He picked up a hoard of glass photographic negatives 10 years ago for $45 (bargaining down from $70) that may possibly be the work of the great Ansel Adams, whose beautiful monochrome images of Yosemite National Park are a staple of Sierra Club calendars. Norsigian has been researching his find – on the Internet, no doubt – and now there’s speculation that these may be Adams plates long believed to be destroyed and lost forever. A possible value of $200 million has been blithely bandied about: That includes reproduction rights, projected print sales, yada yada yada.

Now, I can be as gullible as the next guy, but when I first heard about the airhead newscaster on “Headline News” say, with an earnest face, $200 million – more than the GNP of a lot of Third World countries – for a bunch of glass negatives, I said something that Stephanie Irwin, who designs this site, advised me not to write down in case kids are reading this. An article in the July 28 Wall Street Journal made me feel justified in reacting as I did: Photography experts pointed out that (1) about twelve gazillion visitors to Yosemite in the 1920s were photographing El Capitán and anything else in sight, so there’s no proof yet that these plates were made by Ansel Adams, and (2) even if they WERE made by Adams, the value is in the PRINTS made from the plates, not in the plates themselves. So it’s not like the happy owner just won the California State Lottery’s MEGA Millions.

This news item reminded me of an “Antiques Roadshow” appraisal in which the expert noted that Adams signed the prints he made himself – which are the most valuable – while those made by his trusted assistant he only initialed and are therefore less valuable.

Personally, I hope the plates that Norsigian picked up ARE proven to be by Ansel Adams and that he can cash them in for enough to retire very comfortably and even have a Ferrari to drive in his dotage – never having to pick up a paint roller again. I especially admire him for taking the chance and for doing the research: That’s the beauty of the Internet Age, spammers and phishers and identity thieves aside: You can do a lot of the checking yourself. This is a lesson for all of us collectors: Be cynical, but don’t give up!

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 If autographs are your thing, or you’re thinking of buying a special gift for someone for the holidays, I urge you to check out Ed’s very well organized site. For some reason, I’ve been finding that quite a few booksellers listing their stock on Advanced Book Exchange (a.k.a. ABE, www.abebooks.com) and Alibris (www.alibris.com) are incredibly sloppy or downright deceptive in their descriptions. Here are some recent experiences I’ve had:

  • One bookseller in Portland described a book as having been signed TWICE by the author. I knew for a fact that the book in question has a preface with a printed signature, so I asked her to conform that the book was signed twice; she confirmed this. When I received the book – which was not in as good a condition as described – and discovered that in fact it was signed only ONCE and the other signature was printed she got huffy, saying the book was still a good deal and she wouldn’t accept the return.
  • Another bookseller sold me an 1883 book whose original title page had been removed and replaced with a glued-in photocopy. The photocopy was on new, heavier stock, not the cheap-o stuff they sometimes give you for free at Office Max in return for used LaserJet cartridges. Again, this was curiously absent from the description. Was this a deliberate attempt to deceive? Did the seller think I wouldn’t NOTICE? I’m waiting for an answer to my e-mail.
  • A bookseller in Falls Church, Va., sold me an 1857 map of Western Washington, describing it as “V.G–. Light browning at one fold. Nice map.” One teensy-weensy problem: A rectangular chunk – almost half the border on one of the long sides – had been cut away. The map can’t be framed and is useless as a collectible. The seller was at least nice about, noting, “The map was issued and inserted in the Serial volume as you see it. Nevertheless I should have mentioned it in the description.” He offered me a partial refund if I want to keep it or a full refund if I want to keep it. (It’s going back.)
  • A bookseller in Texas listed a book as “inscribed by the author.” Because the autograph of the author in question is rare, and the book was priced cheaply at relatively at $300, I asked to see a scan: The inscription was NOT in the author’s handwriting; what’s more, it was signed with initials, and the initials were not the author’s! I pointed out this small detail: The seller insisted that the inscription was the author’s and still has it listed.

I mentioned these disappointments to a bookseller in Georgia who is extremely conscientious about his descriptions. He replied: “Some (booksellers) are lazy and some are just incompetent.” Word to the wise: Request scans whenever possible. In lieu of a scan, don’t be afraid to ask lots of questions: Ask for a very detailed description of the item, including condition issues, the exact wording of any inscription, the presence or lack of a dust jacket, whether it is a true first or a later book club copy (check the back cover near the spine: There’s usually a pressed-in letter or design to indicate this) and what the seller’s return policy is.

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